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Senate is meant to represent the sovereignty of the States

 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:16 am    Post subject: Senate is meant to represent the sovereignty of the States Reply with quote

You seem to not fully understand the purpose of the Senate (not to mention what is actually meant by equal Suffrage) and why the Senate exists in the first place, which is to represent the States, as States -- i.e. the State Legislatures and allow them to participate directly in the administration of the general government. The Senate was never intended to represent the People. The People were already being represented in the 1st branch, the House, which was meant to represent the numbers while the Senate (and the reason for its existence) is to represent the States in their political character, including their wealth and their sovereignty, and to provide a check against the masses and excesses of the 1st branch (the People.) The following just scratches the surface as to these facts...

In Convention, Thursday, June 21, 1787:
ּּּּ Mr. WILSON'S "As the plan now stood,... one branch of the Genl Govt (the Senate or second branch) was to be Appointed By The STATE Legislatures. The STATE Legislatures, therefore, BY THIS PARTICIPATION in the Genl Govt would have an opportunity of DEFENDING THEIR RIGHTS."

This was a driving theme and critical objective throughout the entire course of the convention, with nothing debated, agreed upon nor inserted into the Constitution to the contrary. It was settled, that if such representation and guarantees were not provided for in the Constitution, the States would never ratify it.

Also, consider the following...

Federalist 9: Hamilton:
ּּּּ "The proposed Constitution, so far from implying an abolition of the STATE GOVERNMENTS, makes them [State Legislatures] constituent parts of the national sovereignty, by allowing them a DIRECT REPRESENTATION IN THE SENATE, and leaves in their possession certain exclusive and very important portions of sovereign power. This fully corresponds, in every rational import of the terms, with the idea of a federal government."

In Convention, Monday, August 13, 1787, on connecting taxation and representation:
ּּּּ Col. MASON. "the SENATE did not represent the PEOPLE, but THE STATES IN THEIR POLITICAL CHARACTER. It was improper therefore that it should tax the people."
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